Well, Beerus is a confirmed star(sun) buster and Whis is leagues above him. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. たとえば このGTに登場する『スーパーサイヤ人4』というのは中鶴くんのデザインで、上に描いた絵は、ボクがそれを見て描いた 似顔絵なんです。うまく描いたでしょうか?. It has also been revealed in the Fukkatsu No F manage adoption that Whis has the ability to insert himself in the past before events happen. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Think about his powers rationally. DB/DBZ was written solely by Toriyama(under his company). Incredible that I had forgot about this. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. So how does Whis teach Goku and Vegeta now? GT is canon, Akira said you can make its all your opinion. @nomar: it's like saying New 52 isn't canon because the original writer of the people in it didn't write it. Has anyone gotten any more destruction feats? Base Gogeta did better than SSB Goku and Vegeta, but let's just lowball and put SSJ Gogeta at SSBKKx20 level. Whirus appears similar to Beerus in build, with Whis' skin color. Whis has hax powers. That's really cool. Not to mention he's much much faster. Frieza had to physically move from place to place to destroy planets. @nomar: Until Akira says GT is non canon or it gets retconned its canon, wtf are you talking about. Well, Beerus is a confirmed star(sun) buster and Whis is leagues above him. 2 years ago. Pan: I see they're just as loud mouthed as they were when they fought Omega Shenron. R2: In character, but both are legitimately fighting. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is so skilled, and has such understanding of the peculiarities of my drawings, that there have been times that even I have been like, "Did I draw this character design, or did Nakatsuru-kun?," not being able to tell the difference. @ssjbatdan: and? For instance, you could argue who's strong in the manga, Tien or Krillian, and get a separate result from who's stronger in the anime, because of filler. The SSG was like the biggest powerup in the whole series back in the first arc, but nowadays it's barely above SSJ3. Tell me how SSJ4 Gogeta even compares and what you base it on. And Whis is stronger. Lol Like I said I'm waiting for anyone to show me any kind of proof of them doing something that I don't think Baby Vegeta, Omega Shenron, SSJ4 Goku or Vegeta couldn't do probably easier. -Can one shoot most of the dbz cast, but as bills says; "Is way to lazy to fight" (from Xenoverse. For people who dont want it to be the real end to the dragon ball story, it is just a "side story" and for those who love it it can be part of the grand final story. Whis has no showing or feats - just implied power. Maybe he'd need to put in a small modicum of effort rather than just dodge and giggle. A guy who almost one-shotted Bills vs a guy who killed Omega Shenron with ease...hmm.. Whis stomps hard. The two both come at Whis together full force, however Whis easily manages to block all of their attacks with little effort. It would be like me saying my fan fiction is canon to DBZ because Akira hasn't said otherwise. Whis didn't even incluse himself in the top five. ), @frocharocha: Still nothing compared to #3. テレビアニメの方はもうすこし続けたいとのことでしたが、ボクはもうこれ以上は…。というわけでドラゴンボールのアニメはストーリーも含め、すっかりアニメスタッフの方々におまかせすることになったのです。. Gogeta smacks him Whis only one-shot Beerus Big freaking woop considering SSJB Gogeta belted Broly who was probably above Beerus and UI is >>>>> SSJB People need to stop pretending Whis is 1000 x stronger then beerus or some s***they are forbidden to use their power, jadeite actually have a point lol but with that being said. I can't find it online from my usual sources. See how silly that is? GT characters are leagues above DBZ so gogeta takes this. Did I do a good job? An battle between Gogeta and Broly took place when the latter Saiyan was brought to Earth by Freeza and his father Paragus. Defeat SSGSS Gogeta and SSGSS Vegito Lose Conditions Edit. I like Whis, but Gogeta stomps, I'm sorry. In GT, the only contributions that I made were the title, the initial main character designs, some of the mecha designs, and a number of image cuts. @precrisisbardock: I'm well aware, but if you put it into context, he really is a god. "When he at the mic you don't go next" MF DOOM. Having quietly ended Dragon Ball in serialization, I, who am lazy by nature, was happy to finally be liberated from Deadline Hell. Gogeta is the strongest, Whis is next just being a little more powerful than Beerus, and Piccolo is god tier just behind them. Gogeta massively outranks anyone in Dragon Ball. There is no almost... he did one-shot him. He lives outside the universe and controls if or not things in that universe get to exist, and that's just how it is. He controls a realm that instantly destroys entire planets with the poke of a finger. R1: In character, Whis is training Gogeta-Jiren. SSJG Goku is far above SSJ4 Gogeta. Hence the "Possibly" in there. Can't really do this one since we haven't seen too much of Whis yet. Whis has never done anything, he has 0 feats. He's so strong that Vegeta, the prideful Saiyan prince, bowed before him and danced like a monkey, completely accepting the fate of Earth, should he fail to amuse Barus. Gogeta vs Whis - Fan Animation - Dragon Ball Super - YouTube I wonder if he's a grand kai. You will have to skim through the RoF discussion thread to find the link to it. There is also the feat of him schooling God Goku while not even trying. But in this case, since the plan was to be running all around the universe, I made it GT, carrying the meaning of a great journey, "grand touring. Surely not together. Also again GT has no canon material(manga). Based on supposed power levels - Whis stomps. And anybody who can solo Gods of Destruction (So the Angels, Grand Priest, etc.) @baron2011: 1. Come with a strong argument please. Wiping them from existence and then it comes down Mephistopheles vs all 4 of them. In xenoverse he barely fights when dealing with the opponents, he's just lazy to fight and still beats the heck out of them. 2. Gogeta was created in a desperate bid by Son Gokū and Vegeta to defeat a rampaging Broly. Unless you know, it actually happens and UI fusion is somehow grand priest level. I can't find it online from my usual sources. Omega Shenron was toying with two fully powered SSJ4's as if they haven't even transformed. @PFM18 How could you make such a terrible comparison? For instance, you could argue who's strong in the manga, Tien or Krillian, and get a separate result from who's stronger in the anime, because of filler. MZ over powers Gokus and Vegeta easily yet loses a 1 v 1 beam struggle to Goku. Well by my count we still have one more chapter, so anticipation is still high. Gogeta (ゴジータ, Gojīta) is a Saiyan from the 7th Universe, created via the Metamoran art of Fusion. If you are able, along with me, to enjoy watching the original Dragon Ball's grand side-story Dragon Ball GT, you will be pleased. You may be looking for: His original appearance in Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn and Dragon Ball GT His appearance in Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Question where are you reading the manga adaptation? He's the God of a state of being. I'd say that Broly is blue x2 level as soon as he transforms, his final measure being around the x10 orx20, theoretically putting Gogeta's base as weaker than Blue but stronger than Golden Frieze. Whiss easily he 1 shooted beerus who is mean't to able to destroy galaxies in a instant. All team HP depleted Time expires HP of all allies in area depleted Plot Edit. Whis power is unknown, while he is stronger then Beerus, it's unknown how much stronger then Beerus he truly is, even SSJB Gogeta crushed Broly, and he was => Beerus. 原作 ドラゴンボールの 壮大なサイドストーリーであるドラゴンボールGTを ボクといっしょに楽しく観ていただければ 幸いです。. Question were are you reading the manga adaptation? Gogeta VS Broly on YouTube I have no problem believing MUI Gogeta being on whis level and stuff. @precrisisbardock: Except for the feat of one-shotting Beerus who easily tank a point blank Kamehameha from SSJG Goku. Beerus Hakai's at least Hulk, Apocalypse, and Nova all at once. I'm sure since Whis uses GOD ki, he's far superior. It's a side story and only canon to the extended universe. @precrisisbardock: He doesn't have to. Gogeta is seeking to strengthen his power, and Whis has the perfect training partner! SSJ3 is a 8x boost over SSJ and Blue is atleast 50x SSG based on the Kefla fight. Trunks was stronger than Vegito in anime filler. Whis wins. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. It has also been revealed in the Fukkatsu No F manga adaption that Whis has the ability to insert himself into the past before events happen. At first glance, this appears to give Vegito the advantage, but the Potara fusion is also limited by energy consumption. Could they beat Whis? In Barus' domain, he only has to lift a finger to destroy anything he wants to.So tell me, how is SSJ4 Gogeta stronger? The people from the TV anime were wanting to continue just a little further, but since I didn't want to do any more than I already had, I ended up leaving everything, including the story, up to the people on the anime staff. As much as this is a cool question this is more of a stomp than you think. So yes, Gogeta via stomping should possibly be 2-C since stomping in Dragon Ball can range from a .5 difference to a 10x difference in power. Whis knocks Omega's head off. @ariesxmasters: Yea dude, i hate how people think GT isn't cannon, it is cannon its just its own series, people need to stop gettin it twisted hell even Akira backed it up. It has no main canon material(manga). It's important to note that both fusions are restricted by time: As previously mentioned, Vegito by an hour and Gogeta by 30 minutes. This battle's track in Dragon Ball Super: Broly is known as "Gogeta VS Broly." @julyiscool: Gogeta accidentally kills him toying with him. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. its a perfect way to look at Dragon ball GT. @frocharocha: because he's even more featless than superman prime. Omega Shenron is just some dude and by that point power levels are so far gone we can't compare one to another. At the start of Resurrection ‘F’, Whis is training Goku and Vegeta on Beerus' planet. We have no basis of Whis power so anyone saying he stomps, doesn’t know what they’re talking about. There is also the feat of schooling SSJ God Goku while not even trying. If we go by the Manga, Whis wins, arguably with some difficulty. It's SSj4 Gogeta vs Whis, weather or not GT is canon doesn't matter. Well by my count we still have one more chapter, so anticipation is still high. gt is not canon so what feats they did in gt is what you get. What instance/attack are you referring to? It's hypothetical anyways. They aren't canon to DBZ either. Comics also have multiple Universe's for when authors want to explore something without hurting main canon. OOTs Forest Temple is my favorite Zelda dungeon. I don't think he should be used in the Battle Forum. GT characters aren't leagues above anything. Guarda Ssj5 Gogeta Vs Bills Champa Whis Vados - 2016 Return & Venom 901 Evil goku ssgssj5 su Dailymotion Beerus: STOP MOCKING ME!!! Follow 2314. Omega Shenron tanked an attack that had the damage output = to what it takes to destroy 200,000+ dimensional walls without a scratch. Chapter two was quite brief and did not reveal too much. @precrisisbardock: No it isn't. I know that Vegito wasn’t able to win, especially due to the time limit. It's hard to believe Whis is MUI fusion level when SSJB Goku was fodder to Beerus yet SSJB Gogeta can slap the dog s*** outta someone above him. Comics are written under the helm of a company(Marvel/DC) and have multiple writers. Gogeta would need to land at least one huge attack to have a shot here I think, and while it could happen we just dont know enough about Whis' durability to know what it would take to beat him. The same Broly who tanked Soul Punisher from Gogeta and Gogeta went Blue to even stand a shot at beating. I cant remember what page it was. It's SSj4 Gogeta vs Whis, weather or not GT is canon doesn't matter. Only here will you find stubborn ass people dismissing the fight cause it's "not cannon" ughh in the end its all opinion and anyone can say whatever the fuq they want whenever they want, for example superman solos DBZ and GT combined. It's hypothetical anyways.Tell me how SSJ4 Gogeta even compares and what you base it on. Whis: It has been awhile since Lord Beerus has been tested like this, this is very interesting. Whis wins this with ease. R3: Both are bloodlusted, going for the kill However, if we're talking GT, all restraint is instantly out the window and anything is acceptable. So scaling goes out the window right there. Scotchbear. that arc had the worst power scaling. ", GTでボクがやったことといえば このタイトルと最初の主要メンバー、一部のメカデザインと数枚のイメージカットだけですが、ずっとドラゴンボールを続けていただいてきた優秀なスタッフのみなさんなので 安心して おまかせすることができたのです。. Ultra Instinct Goku VS Jiren debuted in Dragon Ball Super Episode 110, but what if Super Vegito faced Whis? Beerus swung a devastating punch at Gogeta, but Gogeta caught it with relative ease This is the same Whis who saw MUI Goku as well. Angels are meant to be far beyond any living mortal so I'd say Whis stomps easily. But so is Xenoverse. 8,130 Zeni Leave the rest to me! It was posted earlier today. Lol. His Potara counterpart is Vegetto. You know I'm Freeza saga they were calling Goku and Freeza Gods. Goku and Jiren both have surpassed the G.o.D’s that’s true but Potara did it far faster. Akira has no part in it's development. Gogeta makes a move, Whis just keeps going back in time until he gets him. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vegito Vs. Gogeta: Who Wins? Whis is an absolute unknown but FPSSJ Broly was a total joke to him. GT doesnt exist in DBZ and DBZ doesnt exist in GT, they're different stories from different people, and there are fights like this all over the place. Even Whis was amazed by how powerful Gogeta truly was (who dominated the fight). とくに、アニメーターの中鶴くんは すごい腕前で、ボクの絵のクセなんかをあっというまに会得してしまい、ときどき自分でも このキャラデザインを描いたのは、ボクか?中鶴くんか? などとわからなくなることがあったりするぐらいです。. He has more fur on his face and ears, and has a outer-collared Egyptian-like attire, taken from both Beerus and Whis. The image I drew above is the likeness I made after looking at it. Forum Posts. For example, "Super Saiyan 4," which appears in GT, was Nakatsuru-kun's design. In all rounds, Whis won't use his time travel powers. @precrisisbardock: It's certainly not canon to the manga, and Toriyama said it's not canon to the anime. Yes, the only time to bring it is if you state it specifically in the fight, but since a GT character is involved, it's implied that we're using the extended DB universe. the strongest dbz character vs the strongest dbgt character Who wins? The chapter dialogue was translated by Herms on Kanzenshu. I don't think Whis one shots, but I don't see Whis having any real trouble with him either. Gogeta only transformed once Broly powered up again, and after that no matter how many times Broly got stronger, Gogeta nonchalantly handled him. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. Yes, the only time to bring it is if you state it specifically in the fight, but since a GT character is involved, it's implied that we're using the extended DB universe. << people get pissed over this shit, its actually kinda sad :( if you're gonna comment on a battle don't bring that cannon and non cannon mentality it's annoying and unnecessary. Help Gogeta reach the top! But thanks to the excellent staff that I was having keep continuing Dragon Ball, I was able to relax and leave it to them. The Metamo-Ringon his left arm keeps him from defusing. Let's assume that a fusion (Gogeta) can fuse with another singular being. 3 Omega Shenron tanked an attack that had the damage output = to what it takes to destroy 200,000+ dimensional walls without a scratch, and Gogeta raped him. I am truly thankful to all of you who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD Box. No, that was pretty much it. Gogeta: Come on pussy cat, take your best shot. But the grand priest is the strongest before zeno. It would be a huge stretch to say he would even be near the grand priest in power. At least I know Barus is the God of Destruction with God Ki and Whis is stronger than him. Gogeta is a character in the Dragon Ball metaseries, the Metamoran Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta. ドラゴンボールDVD BOXを買っていただいたみなさん、ほんとうにありがとうございます。. So Whis has connection with the suoreme kai of time? Even if Gogeta was stronger (doubtful), Whis could simply teleport him to another dimension and just leave him there. To put it into perspective, Barus is introduced as a literal God in the Dragon Ball Universe. I see. I see. So if we use Anime Filler, Whis destroys with zero difficulty. A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta, Dragon Ball FighterZ: Super Baby 2 Trailer and SSJ4 Gogeta Teaser, Trying to claim that Jiren > Beerus is the new SSBK Goku > Beerus. Gogeta would probably win. GTというのはクルマ用語で「グランツーリスモ」つまり速くて高性能なクルマってことですが、この場合は宇宙を駆けまわるっていう設定でしたので「グランドツーリング」壮大な旅という意味を込んでGTとしました。, "GT" is an automotive term, "gran turismo" -- in other words, a fast, powerful car. Basic Reward Edit. 連載していた ドラゴンボールが無事終了し、本来なまけもののボクは やっと しめきり地獄から解放されめちゃめちゃ 喜んでいました。. Exactly, but everyone says Whis, because he is cannon lol. 'S not canon so what feats they did in GT is canon, wtf are you talking about i sure! Track in Dragon Ball Super Episode 110, but both are legitimately fighting since Lord Beerus has been awhile Lord. 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